UHK 80 - Compatibility with older EFI/UEFI Mac Pros

Doing research as I have a preorder on a keyboard I’ve discovered doesn’t work with EFI/UEFI, apparently after 3 years this is still an issue.

My question is if the UHK 80 will support EFI/UEFI or rather work with it. I’m particularly looking to use one keyboard for logging in and re-logging in after restart or sleep/hibernation and would like very much not to have to use two keyboards for that process.

Thanks!

I am not aware of that. Can you provide more context? (A link to relevant issues etc.)

While researching for a replacement keyboard I have learned that some keyboards do not work with EFI/UEFI boot/bios.

One would need to swap their existing keyboard for a wired one that is compatible in order to work in what has been dubbed “boot mode”

“ BIOSes or the boot device menus **need the keyboard to have 6KRO to be recognized.”

Most keyboards offered are NKRO hence my question above as I would love to use one keyboard for every aspect of my work, including booting and logging in as well as being able to work in either PC BIOS or Mac EFI /UEFI boot loader.

In essence I’m trying to ascertain if the UHK 80 would allow for this or if I would still need to keep a separate wired keyboard on hand.

I have one keyboard made by Keychron k3 pro that will use NKRO when wired via usb and 6KRO when on Bluetooth. Wondering if the UHK80 does something similar?

I tested my UHK80 with an online NKRO tester, and in Windows, it uses NKRO mode over USB, UHK dongle, and with an ASUS USB-BT500 adapter. Whether or not it switches to 6KRO outside of the OS, I have no way of testing. I don’t have a Mac, but I can say that on my Win 11 PC, BIOS and login work fine over the UHK dongle. It doesn’t keep a connection to my BT500 adapter outside of Windows for me though.

Also, it always works in BIOS over USB for me as well, so I can’t imagine it wouldn’t work on a Mac. So even if it doesn’t work over BT or the dongle for you, it does have USB, so you wouldn’t need a separate wired KB; just a cable…

UHK supports both NKRO and 6KRO (aka boot protocol), and the correct one should be picked depending on what the host supports. If it doesn’t, it is a bug.

(Sorry, haven’t understood you originally. Thought you were claiming we don’t support 6KRO.)

When you mention “the correct one should be picked depending on what the host supports.” does that mean the UHK 80 can pick which one is needed, or the end user needs to perform some action ( special key press, switch flip, firmware update ) to go back and forth between NKRO or 6KRO?

( No worries at all Kareltucek, simply asking, to cover my bases before I place an order, as the keyboard I have pre-bought ( Dygma Raise 2) only supports NKRO and the manufacturer says they have no plans to add 6KRO functionality )

I only have a 2020 MacBook Air, and I only use it for testing Agent, so I don’t even know how to enter its BIOS. I’m unsure whether it’s considered “older”, but I can test the UHK 80 with it if it helps.

The UHK 80 works with the BIOS of my PC that utilizes the Z790 chipset, which, to my knowledge, uses UEFI.

I’m unsure whether the mentioned NKRO → 6KRO failover is already implemented, but I could always use both the UHK 60 and UHK 80 with BIOSes and can’t recall related reports from users.

Thank you for the clarification, this may just be some misunderstanding on my part regarding how a keyboard functions with older Mac’s EFI/UEFI based, primarily a 2010 Mac Pro tower I use still, while the rest are more modern like your 2020 and beyond with Apple Silicone which no longer use EFI/UEFI.

At first glance a keyboard is a keyboard, but under the hood there’s more to it :slight_smile:

It’s mainly for older intel macs, and since I still have a 2010 Mac Pro tower that I still use daily for work, that’s why I was asking

For my own understanding, when you say 6KRO failover is already implemented, but I could always use both the UHK 60 and UHK 80 with BIOSes and can’t recall related reports from users, is that done via usb or is that over wireless?

Via USB. In this respect, we don’t have widespread feedback about the UHK 80 yet.